I’m sure you’re sick of this question
by now, but I just gotta ask for the record: can you detail the break
up of Audioslave a bit?
When we finished writing Revelations, we left
the future open. I started working on Carry On while the other guys
got Rage Against The Machine back together. We didn’t decide on anything,
but at the same time it was apparent that the songwriting – actually,
the entire process of Audioslave’s work method – had been taken as far
as it could go. If we worked on a fourth record, it would’ve required
us to go beyond what we had been doing up until now, which was get in
a room, jam on riffs and ideas, and be spontaneous. I loved the working
process of Audioslave – we wrote a lot of songs, and I myself had never
been so prolific – but at the same time I missed making music that was
more “involved,” meaning more orchestrated and perhaps elaborate. And,
of course, there were certain business issues that we never agreed upon
that were there from the beginning, mostly because we worked so fast
and so well together that it was easy to just ignore the business aspect
of it. But you can’t ignore problems forever: they bite you in the ass
in the end.
Most importantly, though, my heart was telling
me that I shouldn’t be in a band for a while. I’ve gone through similar
phases on and off my whole life, but… when I quit drinking and doing
drugs, I kind of had an anxiety attack. I felt like I had lost time
and should be making up for it. I’m in my early 40s, and I still feel
like there’s so much more music to make and experiment before I die…
which I hope is a long time from now. (laughs) I have so much to say,
and there’s so much more I want from music – more access to touring,
writing, keeping my own pace – that I just realized that I had to do
the solo thing. It’s where my heart is, and I’m really enjoying it.
I couldn’t afford to let someone else’s opinion or vacation time get
in the way of it.
I’m not saying any of this in a negative way
toward the guys in Audioslave: in fact, it was extremely easy to be
creative in that band. The third (and last) record is actually my favorite.
You know, when we came together, a lot of people wanted us to succeed
but also a lot of people wanted to believe that we were a corporate
business move. But I always said “let the music speak for itself,” and
I feel like it does.
Would you mind pinpointing the time period
when you got sober?
I went into rehab right before Audioslave’s
first tour. I have never toured with Audioslave while under the influence.
Getting clean not only made me focus on music, it made me focus on life.
I got remarried, had more children… it felt like waking up. In fact,
I feel like I’m still doing it right now: I have 15, 20 year-old memories
just now slowly coming back to me. It’s actually not too bad for a guy
who was in a Seattle band. (laughs) The first time I did drugs, I was
12 years-old. I never went overboard with it, but years and years of
build up eventually took its toll.
I only ask because I thought maybe you
got sober during Euphoria Morning, since it was a solo album full of
musical departures and fits your description of doing what you want
instead of adhering to others’ opinions…
Actually, I was at my worst during Euphoria
Morning. It was the lowest point. I was doing really bad. It took me
six times longer than usual to finish that record. I wasn’t writing
under the influence – I’ve never been able to do that – but most of
the time it would take me entire days just to get over a hangover or
something to be able to work. When I was in the studio for “Preaching
the End of the World,” I literally spent more than half a day just waiting
for this terrible headache to go away.
Really? And here I was thinking that
you were getting started on pursuing the solo thing that you were talking
about…
Well, Euphoria Morning was a reaction to having
been in Soundgarden for so long. I felt like there were directions that
I wasn’t allowed – or appropriate – to go in, either because the lyrics
were too personal or the other guys didn’t like the music.
But then you jumped right back into the
band format immediately afterward: why?
Kind of because of the same reasons as Temple
Of The Dog: I couldn’t turn down such a collaboration. When Tom (Morello,
Rage Against The Machine / Audioslave guitarist) called me, it just
sounded like a great idea to be in a band with those guys. I had just
come out of a band where, toward the end, I was perceived as the driving
force (Soundgarden). I had written a ton of material for the band, was
doing most of the press, was always the first one at the studio and
the last one to leave… I was extremely hands-on with Soundgarden. And
same thing with Temple Of The Dog: I co-produced it, and it was my first
production experience. I helped arrange the songs, melodies, and sometimes
even what notes the instruments played. Audioslave, however, allowed
me to move away from that. It was the total opposite, where everyone
felt like they were an equal part.
And now you’re back
on track doing the solo thing… how does Carry On continue what you started
with Euphoria Morning?
I definitely feel like Carry On is related
to Euphoria Morning. I didn’t tour much behind Euphoria Morning, and
now that I’ve returned to it years later, I’m finding it to be a very
musical album. There’s a lot out of it that I can still bring back.
I don’t remember some of it, (laughs) so I’ve had to relearn some of
the songs.
Do you think you’ll be playing songs
from it on tour?
Perhaps. The band I have now knows about 40
songs, (laughs) so there will be no shortage of variation. I feel like,
for the first time, Euphoria Morning’s songs can be authentically duplicated
live. For a while, it felt like there was just something missing… but
not anymore. I definitely think that I am now able to revisit my past
and offer a well-rounded encapsulation of everything I’ve done.
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